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When I start my MDI application with the form maximised (which is what I want to have) the image shown is too large for the actual screen size and effect is that the top/bottom/left/right of my form are all cut off slightly. If I manually set the screen to a normal size and then back to maximum size it fixes itself. I was hoping that this would be fixed in v2.0 and in part I blame myself for not advising you of this bug which I took to be self evident. I can send a screen image if required. The cutoff image is on a Vista machine and I think the problem is consistent on non-Vista ones but have not checked that specifically.

We confirm that this bug occurs on Windows Vista. Thanks for the report. We will fix it in the next release.

As a workaround you can use the following code:

    public partial class Form1 : Form
    {
        public Form1()
        {
            InitializeComponent();
        }

        protected override void OnShown(EventArgs e)
        {
            base.OnShown(e);
            WindowState = FormWindowState.Maximized;
        }
    }

The only shortcoming of this approach is that the application flicks a bit at startup.

Hello

I’ve downloaded "Elegant Ribbon v.2.0 for .NET 2.0 (10.80Mb)", but when I start the installation, it says "This will install Elegant Ribbon v1.2".
And then it says that I have already the same version (v1.2) installed...

Is this a wrong upload?

Thanks

Sven

Thank you for reporting this problem. We renamed the file to ElegantRibbonSetup-v.2.0.exe and now there should not be any problems.

Hello

Which size is the best for a screentip image? I am always using 32x32, but sometimes it is cropping a bit of the image...

Sven

Generally, there are no restrictions on the image size for screen tips, so you can use any. There is a bug relating to the layout of screen tip’s image in v.1.2. This bug is fixed and this may resolve your problem. Please wait for the next version that is to be released in a couple of days.

Hello

In your superb Ribbon UI Sample, you have combobox’s with a high of 22. How can I set that? I have a high of 25 and cannot change it...
I am trying to put a label, a combobox and a Buttongroup in a vertical layout, but it doesnt have enough space, so it is putting the Buttongroup right of it...

But you have that in your example working, so I am curious how I can set the high...

Thanks

Sven

The height of any combo box in the ribbon is calculated automatically and you cannot set it directly. We suspect that you may have set some specific font the combo box and that is why it is 25px in height. The wrong height leads to that you get a different layout. So please check this. We would recommend you use the same font for the whole application so it can be consistent. if the problem persists, just send us a test project that demonstrates the problem.

Hi,

I downloaded Elegant Ribbon .NET control sample and see, that it does not support Glass effect under Windows Vista, but paints its own frame.
Are you going to implement native Vista Glass effect in the nearest upgrades?

hello

How can I set the active RibbonTabPage?

So if I press on some part of my application, that the appropriate RibbonTapPage will be selected?

Please use the Ribbon.CurrentTabPage property.

Sorry I couldnt do it with that? What I want is, if I press on a button, that RibbonTabPage5 is selected

So remoted selection of a TabPage...

Actually it works on our side. Would you send us a test project so we can check it?

Hello

how can I make a colored panel?
What we have used until now, is just a label, with when I click on it, a color dialog is appearing and then after selecting a color, it is changing the backcolor of that label. But it doesnt seem that I can set the backcolor (I can set it, but it does not change) of a label or a panel ...

Is there any possibility to do taht?

Thanks

Both the label and panel in Elegant Ribbon are painted in way that they are consistent with the current theme (either blue or black) and you cannot set the background color directly. What you could do to achieve what you need is to use the standard controls instead.

Thanks. I have added a label to a RibbonGroup. That worked in the designer, but when I start it, the label doesnt show up in the RibbonGroup :-(

It won’t work with a ribbon group, it works only on the form. We will change this in the version that is scheduled for release in July. At the moment, you can either wait or repaint the label yourself.

Hello

Will the next release have this implemented for sure (possibility to set background color of a panel on ribbon), and when do you exactly plan to publish the next release?

Thanks

Sven

Yes, this is feature will be available in the next release. It is scheduled for the end of July.

Thanks for the RC1. I’ve tried to set the backcolor of a panel and a label of this version, but it’s still not possible?

Thanks a lot, that’s great... I’ve painted now panels on it, but it’s not the perfect solution, so I’m looking forward to your release

Ok I will paint a label myself

We would like to add the following. In one of the next versions, we will improve this so that you can always override this default behavior.

Hello

If I enter a "!" into the Text of a Screentip (of a Textbox), Visual Studio 2005 is crashing...

We failed to reproduce the problem you reported. The ScreeTip has the following properties: Caption, Image and Text. We typed in an exclamation mark ("!") in Caption and Text, nothing wrong happened. We used both v.1.2 and the version we are working on, and in both cases, there were no problems with entering an exclamation mark. Please let us know the exact build number of your Visual Studio.

Hi

It’s version 8.0.50727.867 (German) with SP1 & Vista Patch running on Vista Ultimate...

But we’ve had other problems with VS 2005 in last time, it’s possible that a repair will fix it...

Hello

I love your tool, it’s really superb compared to others. One question though:
E.g. if I add in Word 2007 a new Diagramm, I get a new temporary ribbon (which only appears when I press on the diagramm)
It’s called "Diagrammtools" (on the Bar) with the two RibbonPanels "Layout" and "Format"

Is it possible to do this with your Ribbon Class too, and if yes, how?

Will the App Menu be implemented next week?

Thanks

Sven

Thank you for the kind words. The feature that you are asking about is called Contextual tabs. Contextual tabs appear within some specific context in the application and provide the user with additional functionality. In the current version, this feature is not supported. This feature will not be available in the next version either (the next version is currently tested and will be released later this week and early next week). But Contextual tabs will be available in the version that comes after that and this feature is of high priority for us.

The Application Menu is ready and will be available in the next version (coming later this week).

Hi

Thanks for your quick answer.
Can I expect the version with the contextual tabs within 90 days? (just purchased it with 90 days updates)

Thanks

Sven

We plan to release it within a month so you will definitely get it. Thank you for your choice, Sven.

Question relating the key.

I have made a new VB Project (VS 2005) and added a ribbonpanel, nothing else.

Now I have this code:

Public Class Form1

Public Sub New()

’ Dieser Aufruf ist für den Windows Form-Designer erforderlich.
InitializeComponent()
Elegant.Ui.RibbonLicenser.LicenseKey = "KEY"
’ Fügen Sie Initialisierungen nach dem InitializeComponent()-Aufruf hinzu.

End Sub
End Class

But it still is giving me "You are using an evaluation version....."

Why?

Great job, guys!!! I’ve yet to find a better ribbon than yours. But do you have any plans to add an app menu like in Office 2007?

I have received the email on Prof-UIS 2.70 release which has Elegant Ribbon updates. Can you please advise when the Elegant Ribbon standalone release will be available with these features/fixes.

Hi there,
I’m wondering about the way to add rows to the UnboundGridControl programmatically and can’t yet figure it out. Can you please assist me with this?

Thank you.


Daniel Protopopov

You can see how to use UnboundGridControl in the following demos of the Simple Elegant Grid Demos sample: ClickCounterDemo, ProgressBarAndColorPickerDemo, and EnumsDemo. You can also read about this in
Unbound Grid.

I’ve decided to go with DataAdapters, but still am experiencing problems seeing the added rows in the BoundedGridControl.. I’ve setup Dataset, Table and such and specified DataSource and DataMembers as per instructed in the CommandSample example application, but all I see is a blank entry row that I can edit. That row still doesn’t save/remember data I’ve entered if edited manually.

Please help.

Thank you.


Daniel Protopopov

Hi,
I have a problem with TextBox from Elegant Ribbon set of controls. When I set UseSystemPasswordChar to true, it hides the text ONLY when I focus (i.e. click) on the textbox, but when the focus is lost, it is seen as clear text. Please suggest how to avoid that or if this is an issue in your BugTraq that you are aware of.

At the moment weaˆ™re using your outstanding software on trial basis but are considering licensing it for our next product.

Thank you.


Daniel Protopopov

How soon are you planning on releasing 1.2 version?

Actually version 1.2 is ready and it is now being tested. It will be released within this month.

Is it possible to create groups that are ’sticky’ across tabs?

In other words: I have a group call "Clip Text" with various clips I want to use from all tabs in my application - can I have this show up on each tab?

Thanks!

Here is all I found from the help file:
XML-based skinning
You can easily modify or completely change the look and feel of your application by modifying the existing XML files.

I looked into all the samples and checked the forum but found no examples or docs on how to do this.

Am I missing something?

Are there samples or docs on how to do this and is there an xsd that exists to develop the xml file correctly?

Thanks!

The UI appearance of the ribbon control is controlled by an XML file and, if you have the source code, it is possible to change the appearance by modifying this file. But it turned out not so easy for our customers to do this so we removed this from the feature list and decided to implement a skin editor instead so the developer could do this without delving into XML and implementation details. So we are sorry for this inaccuracy and will remove this from the help. The skin editor is in our to-do list.

Over time, with development in the environment, having the form frame skinner on a form, the height of the form increases steadily. Have you noticed that too?

Hi,
I’m trying vers. 1.1 and get some strange error when using the ribbon with an inherited form.

I’ve a form called "baseForm" which has a ribbon and a tabpage (with some controls for login and other common tasks) and other forms inherited from that form.

As long as I do not add commands to the base form buttons I can call up the inherited form in design mode - but having added commands (e.g. for the login button on the base form) Visual Studio (Team Suite with SP1, english version) gives me the following error:


"An item with the same key has already been added.

at System.ThrowHelper.ThrowArgumentException(ExceptionResource resource)
at System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2.Insert(TKey key, TValue value, Boolean add)
at Elegant.Ui.CommandManager.RegisterCommand(Command command) "

But I can compile and start the project and run the inherited form w/o any errors - only design view isn’t possible (but that makes work a little hard *g*).

Any idea?

I already tried to modiy the ApplicationCommands.cs file by putting the new constructors from definition to a static constructor surrounded by try-catch but w/o success.

TIA by the Handball Association of Bavaria
Achim

Hi, do you missed right to left layout support?
i want to have controls(close, minimize, maximize) right corner of form, what did by right to left layout properties and right to left both.

Is it possible to resize the ribbon? I need to make the height a little smaller, but I haven’t been able to change the Height property. I want to change the height of the tab pages, basically.

Thanks,
George

That would be an excellent feature, but I might want to take it step further even. Is it possible to make it sort of ’Auto hiding’ like the panels in Visual Studio?

I researched a couple of Ribbon’s found on the internet, but this one is definitely the best one I encountered.

Thank you for the kind words. The Auto Hide mode is implemented and will be added in v.1.3, which is scheduled for release this week. In this mode the ribbon behaves similar to Auto-Hiding panels in VS. You can enter (exit) this mode by double-clicking the ribbon or pressing Ctrl-F1.

Because child controls in the ribbon have a special layout, you cannot change the ribbon’s size directly. Instead you can try setting different values for Ribbon.Font, Ribbon.SmallImageSize and Ribbon.LargeImageSize properties.

Please note the official 2007 Microsoft Office System User Interface Design Guidelines document contains the following requirement:

"The Ribbon MUST be exactly tall enough to display three vertically stacked controls that use 16x16 pixel icons at 96 dpi."

Changing the image sizes to a smaller value doesn’t seem to change anything, larger values do though. Changing the Font sizes does make the ribbon smaller, but the text now looks too small. I understand this wasn’t something that this control was designed for, but we would like to make it a little smaller if possible. Can you think of other suggestions?

Thanks

When I use the Ribbon control with CustomTitleBarEnabled set to true, my form is always set to be full-screen. If that property is false, then everything’s fine. Is there any way to change that behavior?

As a side note, is there plans to release an API reference for the Ribbon?

Thank,
George Faraj

My vista is Ultimate and the I do not know what SP is? I can reproduce the problem quite easy, just force the virtual PC and the problem is consistent meaning every time I maximize the window the full client screen is filled. I use VMware Workstation version 6.0.3 for managing the virtual machine

Sorry for not being clear. SP means a service pack. The current service pack for Vista is 2 (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/dd262148.aspx). Windows service packs fix the bugs and issues discovered from when an OS was released. Could you install SP 2 and see if the problem is gone? If not, can we connect to your desktop and fix the bug on the spot? In this case, we need Visual Studio 2005 on the virtual OS where the problem happens.

The Ribbon.CustomTitleBarEnabled property is set to true by default so there should not be any problems with it and our samples work OK. So we need more details about the problem so we can reproduce it.

We will add the full API reference in one of next 1.x versions.

This happens with the samples provided in the SDK too. I open the Ribbon UI sample from the Programs menu. It starts in a "restored down" state in the middle of my screen. When I click on the Maximize button, it goes fullscreen, i.e it hides the Windows taskbar.

My system is:
Windows XP Professional Version 2002 SP2
Pentium D CPU 3.20 GHz
3.50 GB of RAM
Physical Address Extension

If you need any more information, please let me know.

Thank you for the complete description. Unfortunately, we failed to reproduce the problem on Windows XP SP2. The Ribbon UI sample is restored OK, without hiding the task bar. We can guess that there might be something specific to your machine so we would like to ask you to install Elegant Ribbon on another machine and let us know if the problem persists. This would allow us to localize the problem.

I’ve installed the Ribbon on a couple of other computers. The samples seem to work correctly on those. Running our application with the ribbon still goes full-screen in those, though. It seems to be one of those "on/off" bugs, but I have no idea what it could be.

Thanks.

Would you send us a simple test project that reproduces the problem so we can help you find out what’s wrong?

Do you found a solution for this problem? I am having the same problem but on Vista on a virtual machine. All projects, from the distribution and my own on maximize are full screen including windows task bar?

We fixed a similar problem in the past. At least, we are unaware of this problem in v.3.2. Could you let us know the following?

- Which version are you using?
- The DWM is off, correct?
- Any non-standard settings of the taskbar like when it is docked not to the bottom or the autohide is on?

The version is 3.2. The DWM is not active, I just turn it of from services and the window of the application still is full screen at maximize. The windows taskbar has the usual settings. One row, no auto hide. If I set the taskbar to tow rows the same happens? On windows XP sp2 I can not reproduce the problem. You can see some screen shots at the following links

"http://h.imagehost.org/0079/example_vista.jpg" the way how it looks. It is all the available screen area

"http://a.imagehost.org/0703/taskbar_settings.jpg" the settings page of the task bar

Do you have any suggestions regarding this issue? It is very important!!

Yes, we tested it on Virtual PC with Windows Vista SP1. We tested it for quite a lot of time and managed to reproduce the problem only twice. In other words, it takes quite an effort to get the ribbon app in full screen. On common Vistas with SP2 it does not happen. Could you let us know if you have the same? Is it difficult to reproduce? If the problem is easily reproducible on your side, we will look into it again.

Hi there! I am returning to this problem now because I have a situation on Windows 7 where the problem reappeared. It happens also on XP sp2 but only is an exception occurred in the application thread, but restarting the application fixes the problem. Do you have some information about way this is happening or what could cause it?

Regards,

Octavian