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Hello,

how can i move Tabs or groups in a Ribbon via Code? (vb2005)

Example: i have a Ribbon with:
<tab1>
<group1_1>
<group1_2>
<group1_3>
<tab2>
<group2_1>
<tab3>

how can i move the group3 to:
<tab1>
<group1_1>
<group1_3>
<group1_2>
<tab2>
<group2_1>
<tab3>

or how can i move the tab3 to:
<tab3>
<tab1>
<group1_1>
<group1_2>
<group1_3>
<tab2>
<group2_1>

Best regards
Gunter

Hello,

Tahnks for the reply.

I have:
<tab1>
<tab2>
<tab3>
<tab4>

I select the Tab3 an run the following code:

Dim curTab As Elegant.Ui.RibbonTabPage
curTab = Ribbon1.CurrentTabPage

Ribbon1.TabPages.Remove(curTab)
Ribbon1.TabPages.Insert(0, curTab)

Result:
<tab1>
<tab2>
<tab4>
<tab3>

Tab1 is selected.

what wrong?

Thanks for help.

Best regards
Gunter

There is a bug in the current version of Elegant Ribbon, when the Insert method always adds a tab page to the end of the collection. This bug is already fixed and the next release is coming soon.

1. In the first case, you should work with the tab page’s Controls collection. You need to swap group1_2 and group1_3. Here is how to do this

tab1.Controls.SetChildIndex(group1_3, tab1.Controls.GetChildIndex(group1_2));

2. In the second case, use the Ribbon.TabPages collection. The below code allows you to move tab3 to the zero position

ribbon1.TabPages.Remove(tab3);
ribbon1.TabPages.Insert(0, tab3);

Hello,

the same: how can i move controls (Buttons, Checkboxes, or other Ribbon Controls) in a Group?

Thanks

Gunter

Hello,

Elegant Ribbon (Vers. 2.1):

how can i add a Group in the current tab with Code (VB2005)?

Thanks

Hello,

I have solved my problem

Thanks

Best Regards
Gunter

Hello,

thanks for your sample.

ok. the Ribbon is build with tabs (2) and groups (2) (2)

So, i want to add Controls (buttons, or other) to the group with the Name(Ribbon Group 1.2) or i want change the name "Ribbon Group 1.2" in an other Text.

Or I want to delete the group with the Text "Ribbon Group 2.1"

Best regards
Gunter

Hello,

I create Tabs and Groups via Code.

Sample (2 Tabs with 4 Groups)

To change the Text of Tabs or add Groups are no problem (CurrentTabPage).

But, how can i change a Group Text without to now what is the Current Group or the selected Group. Or. add Controls to the selected / Current Group.

Sorry for my bad english.

Best regards
Gunter

It is not completely clear what you mean by the Current Group but, if you want to populate the ribbon programmatically, you could use the following code

Dim tabPage As RibbonTabPage = New RibbonTabPage()
tabPage.Text = "Page 1"

Dim ribbonGroup As RibbonGroup = New RibbonGroup()
ribbonGroup.Text = "Ribbon Group 1.1"

tabPage.Controls.Add(ribbonGroup)

ribbonGroup = New RibbonGroup()
ribbonGroup.Text = "Ribbon Group 1.2"

tabPage.Controls.Add(ribbonGroup)

ribbon1.TabPages.Add(tabPage)

tabPage = New RibbonTabPage()
tabPage.Text = "Page 2"

ribbonGroup = New RibbonGroup()
ribbonGroup.Text = "Ribbon Group 2.1"

tabPage.Controls.Add(ribbonGroup)

ribbonGroup = New RibbonGroup()
ribbonGroup.Text = "Ribbon Group 2.2"

tabPage.Controls.Add(ribbonGroup)

ribbon1.TabPages.Add(tabPage)

Here is the code

    Dim currentTabPage As RibbonTabPage = ribbon1.CurrentTabPage

       If Not currentTabPage Is Nothing Then
              For Each ribbonGroup As RibbonGroup In currentTabPage.Controls
                     ’...
              Next ribbonGroup
       End If

If it is not what you are looking for, please let us know.

Hello,

Thanks for your reply.

Have you a little code sample ?

Best regards
Gunter

Actually there is no such thing as "current group” in the ribbon. If you need to enumerate ribbon groups within a tab page, you can use the RibbonTabPage.Controls collection.

Hello,

i get the Current Tab with "ribbon1.CurrentTabPage"

how can i get the Current Group?

Thanks

Thanks!

Great support.

Best regards
Gunter

I’m trying to use the combo box with the data binding example from here:
http://www.akadia.com/services/dotnet_databinding.html

Basically the combo box would load data source, display member, and value member properly. The binding does not work:
After I added the line:
cb1.DataBindings.Add("SelectedValue", customersDataSet1, "Customers.Region");
The combo box shows the class name as text instead. When I select a different value, the change is not synced to databind datasource. Lastly, if I manually change the SelectedValue, it takes 10 seconds for the displayValue to update (e.g. I had a button clicked to set cb1.SelectedValue = "MA"; and the text changes to "Massachusetts" after about 10 seconds)

I really need to pick a good looking ribbon package that has a working databinding. DevExpress fails mierably, Telerik is basically a scam, SandRibbon works with binding but they have no other UI component (such as buttons), everything else is basically crap. ElegantUI is really as close as it gets, I hope I just missed something obvious to get data binding working.

We have just tested the case that you described. The problem occurs only when you are editing data in a DataGridView cell. But please noter that if you replace the Elegant UI combox box with the standard one, the problem remains the same. It seems that the problem is in DataGridView, which doesn’t commit data changes until the focused control changes. If you mean something different, please send us a test project that illustrates the issue.

One specific issue of ribbon UI is that a control (a combo box, for example) can be frequently moved from one parent container to some other (for example, in the case of collapsed ribbon groups). In this case, data bound controls are causing significant performance problems because the binding context changes frequently . Because such cases of complex data binding are not so common in real life, we decided to block binding context change notifications for the combo box by assigning its BindingContext to a stub instance. You can always turn off this behavior by setting the BindingContext value to null. For any cases when the parent of the combo box never changes, this solution will not affect performance. So just insert one line of code into your initialization method

cb1.BindingContext = null;

If it does not help, please let us know.

As for the 10-second delay after setting SelectedValue, we failed to reproduce this problem. So everything works fine here. However we would like to help you, so if the problem persists, please send us a sample project that illustrates this issue.

Please note that Windows Forms data binding implementation is not so good for real-world applications, many implicit problems can arise here. Of course, we try to do our best to support data binding for our components, but still we would recommend you use old-fashioned event-based property value synchronization techniques. For Windows Forms programming, this is simpler and better after all.

I have a ribbon with lots of groups and I’d like tobe able to press TAB to jump from control to control within one group and then to the next group and so on. However, when I press the TAB key while I am editing in a combo box, for example, there is no effect.

How do I enable standard dialog box TAB behavior among all the ribbon groups’ controls?

This is not supported in this version (only the standard keyboard navigation is available) and most probably it will be not supported in the next release that is under heavy testing at the moment. However, if you have a license, we can consider this as a feature request and implement this as soon as possible.

I see that the ALT works and one can navigate the controls with TAB after pressing ALT.

However once a user starts entering data into a control after a mouse click he can no longer press TAB to move to the next control.

Is there a way to force that the ALT behavior is always enabled when any control has the input focus?

Is there a way to prevent a user from adding a button to the quick access toolbar - or, preferably, to hide the dropdown arrow next to it? In my application, some of the buttons only make sense to use on the tab page they are on, so I don’t want the user to be able place them in the quick access toolbar and press them when that tab page is not in view. I would like to be able to add buttons at design time only.

Thanks

Please use the following code

    class MyRibbon : Ribbon
    {
        /// <summary>
        /// Determines whether the control can be placed into the Quick Access Toolbar. It can be overriden in a derived class.
        /// </summary>
        /// <param name="control">Control for which the value is retrieved.</param>
        /// <returns>The value is true if the control can be placed in the Quick Access Toolbar; false otherwise.</returns>
        protected override bool CanControlBePlacedIntoQuickAccessToolbarFilter(IControl control)
        {
            if(/*control cannot be placed into QAT*/)
                return false;

            return base.CanControlBePlacedIntoQuickAccessToolbarFilter(control);
        }
    }

We are sorry but we missed the NOT in the first sentence:

You can achieve this by overriding Ribbon.CanControlBePlacedIntoQuickAccessToolbarFilter(), in which just return false for all the controls that should NOT be added to the quick access toolbar.

You can achieve this by overriding Ribbon.CanControlBePlacedIntoQuickAccessToolbarFilter(), in which just return false for all the controls that should be added to the quick access toolbar. We understand that you have some specific requirements for some UI objects but please note that the idea of fluent UI implies that every control can be placed into QAT regardless of control’s context.

Could the Elegant.Ui.Command type be extended with a set of properties to let you know if each event has any eventhandlers attatched...

so, for example for the Executed event:

public bool IsExecutedAttatched
{
get
{
return (Executed != null);
}
}

Currently this comparison is privilidged to within the class, and even inheriting from the class doesn’t give one access to do the comparison...

Uses could be to see if you need to enable/disable an option based on whether anything has hooked it etc...

The restriction when you cannot know the number of subscribers was made for the reason of better encapsulation of events. There are probably some subtleties in the design of your application, which require what you requested. Would let us know more details so that we can help you?

As for the IsExecutedAttatched-like property, we have never seen this kind of APIs before, and it looks a bit strange for us. Again give us more details (if it is possible) about your app’s design to see what we can do.

Are there any plans to expand the functionality of the RecentDocumentsControl so that it gains features that MS Word uses (like numerical keyboard shortcuts for the top 10 items etc).



I think the ’pin to recently used’ is a bit advanced, but the keyboard shortcuts would be nice, as it isn’t currently accessible unless you use a mouse...

Mike

Recent documents pinning is not supported in 3.6 and unlikely will be supported in the next version 3.7.

Just checking if this feature is implemented in the 3.6 ?

it’s crucial feature for my choice to use this control.

I would like to be able to drag and drop files on to a button on the ribbon. I set AllowDrop=true on the button and handled the DragXXXX events but the events were never called. Does the ribbon support drag and drop?

Hello

What I miss is the Tab-Handling in textboxes. If I press Tab I would expect that the selection would jump to the next control.

Thanks

Actually you should enter so called "Selection mode" (by pressing the ‘Alt’ key) to navigate through the ribbon controls. Currently you cannot get to the next control after editing a text box simply by pressing ‘Tab’ key. We will consider implementing this feature.

We have checked the tab-handling in textboxes and it works fine in the ribbon and in the form as well. Please make sure that the TabStop property is set to true and the other controls have correct TabIndex property value. If the problem persists, please send us a project that illustrates it.

When I create a new form, an put the following code in it:

Private Sub Form1_Load(ByVal sender As System.Object, ByVal e As System.EventArgs) Handles MyBase.Load
Me.Text = "22"
MsgBox(Me.Text)
End Sub

It shows correctly "22"

When I then put a ribbon onto the form and run it, I get the old name (Form1)

Seems that I cannot set the me.text

New Ribbon, 2 RibbonGroupbox’s, on each one textbox.
Following code:

Private Sub TextBox1_TextChanged(ByVal sender As Object, ByVal e As System.EventArgs) Handles TextBox1.TextChanged
If TextBox1.Text = "" Then
RibbonGroup2.Visible = False
Else
RibbonGroup2.Visible = True
End If
End Sub

Ribbongroup2-visible is only changing when I move my mouse...
Tried to use RibbonGroup2.PerformLayout() and RibbonTabPage1.PerformLayout(). Didnt work...

We will check it. Please try the RibbonTabPage1.Invalidate() method.

I found a really annoying bug. If I have a elegant.ui.textbox on a ribbontabpage, and I have a standard textbox (or something else that can get focus) on the Form itself, then when I press the "Alt" or "Alt Gr"-key, it is jumping from the elegant.ui.textbox to the other control.

As I need the AltGr for entry (on several keyboards you need it to enter "@" and other letters), that’s really annoying. Is there a workaround available?

Thanks

Sven

Thanks again. We have found the problem and now it is ok. Unfortunately there is no workaround until the next release

Do you already know when the next release will be available?

Btw. same behavier here:

If I use the AutoCompleteMode (Suggest) (which is btw a superb thing, thanks!), and I enter something, than it is suggesting. But if I try to click on the suggestion, the suggestion disappears and the focus goes to the textbox which is not on the ribbon...... :-(

Hello again

A question: Shouldnt TabPages.Insert(1, x) insert the tabpage "x" at the second place?

if I use this:

If Ribbon1.TabPages.Contains(editcard) = False Then
Ribbon1.TabPages.Insert(1, editcard)
End If

It just inserts the tabpage at the end of all tabpages...

Thanks

Sven

Hello

I have the following Code:

Private Sub Ribbon1_CurrentTabPageChanged(ByVal sender As Object, ByVal e As System.EventArgs) Handles Ribbon1.CurrentTabPageChanged
If Ribbon1.CurrentTabPage Is RibbonTabPage2 Then
Label1.text = "Hello"
End If
End Sub

Now if I switch to RibbonTabPage2, I expect the label1 (which is on the Ribbon) to change to "Hello". The code does work, but the label doesnt change.
Only when I resize my form, it suddenly appears. Seems like it does not redraw itself.

But when I run a label1.refresh() after the code, it doesnt change neither.

How can I solve that?

Thanks

Sven

Ok I see the problem:

The label1 has a text of nothing at the start. if I change the text of the label1 to "Hello" in Ribbon1_CurrentTabPageChanged, it is drawing the text, but the width of the label seems still to be 0, so you cannot see it.

If I have an initial text of "Yes", and I change it to "Hello" in Ribbon1_CurrentTabPageChanged, then only "Hel" is drawn.

Thanks for reporting the problem. We will fix it in the next release. As a workaround, you can call PerformLayout() for the ribbon group that contains the label.

Hello

Can you change the default code generation if I press on a control in Designer mode to the default controls ones?

Example if I Doubleclick on combobox in designer mode, I get:

Private Sub ComboBox1_Click(ByVal sender As System.Object, ByVal e As System.EventArgs) Handles ComboBox1.Click
End Sub

The default controls generate:

Private Sub ComboBox1_SelectedIndexChanged(ByVal sender As Object, ByVal e As System.EventArgs) Handles ComboBox1.SelectedIndexChanged
End Sub

Not a big thing but I guess we all are just used to it :-)

Thanks

Thank you for the suggestion. We will change this in the next release.

Hi there,
I’m having problems using Help Provider with CHM file and Elegant Ribbon. I set up it exactly as specified, yet in my simple project (ContextHelp) it works fine, while it doesn’t work in primary project where I use Elegant Ribbon. It doesn’t work when I click on Title Bar’ Help button and doesn’t work when I focus or partially click on the button I want to get the help from.

Could you please verify this as my project is nearing completion and I would be very disappointed if I am to remove Elegant Ribbon due to such error.


Thank you.

I like the new progress bar for the StatusBar - I actually just want to use it like a LED, changing the color to indicate something is happening in my app. Is there a way to change the starting and ending color gradient?

Thanks

I also would like to know how to show the progress or processing of the application on the ribbonbar.

I have tried it by loading different png into the Ext filebutton but the image that gets loaded first is not changing.

Is it possible to show the progress in this way?

Did contextual tabs make it into the 2.1 release?

Contextual tabs is the first feature that will be added in the next release. We are working on this feature right now. Initially we planned to include this feature in v.2.1 but that would take some more time than expected so we decided to put it off until the next release.

How to add DateTimePicker on Ribbon ?

Version 2.2 is being tested and will be released soon. In version 2.3 we plan to add support for generic controls in the ribbon. That is to allow you to drop on the ribbon not only the controls that come with Elegant Ribbon but also other controls available in the toolbox. So if there is no control in Elegant Ribbon, you will have a choice of using a similar control available in the toolbox,

I think this is critical for my apps. But it might be better to add support for custom controls so we can embed any control of our choosing. The controls you have are nice. But a ribbon limited to the most basic set of controls you develop is far too limiting a restriction.

We plan to add a date/time picker control in one of the next versions.