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Is it possible to override the Control F1 in the ribbon bar , to switch this functionality off. Our Application uses all the function keys along with the Shift, Control and Alt  Variants and we do not want the Ribbon Bar Collapsing and Expanding at the same time as our application performing some other task

Hi. I tried to bind object property to combobox, but it displays wrong value. I have binded object’s property to textbox and it works.

There is code:

           cbxDocumentType.DisplayMember = "Name";

            cbxDocumentType.ValueMember = "DocTypeID";           

            cbxDocumentType.DataSource = docCatalog.LoadCatalog().ToList();

            Binding binding = new System.Windows.Forms.Binding("SelectedValue", tmcJournalLine, "DocTypeID", true, DataSourceUpdateMode.OnPropertyChanged);

            cbxDocumentType.DataBindings.Add(binding);

Hi there,

I’ve added a ribbon to an MDIContainer, and added nothing else to the ribbon or the form. I’ve tried to debug and I get the error "InvalidOperationException was handled". The inner exception message is Ribbon does not contain the specified tab page.

Any ideas?

Andy

I grabbed the sample and it seems to work fine. However, I did start the project in VisualBasic 2010 Express, so maybe the issue comes from there.

If I upgrade your sample, it works fine...! :-)

How to use the ribbon in .net 2010?

When I use Elegant Ribbon v3.4 with my app, if in cold startup after system rebot, it takes about 20~30s to get started. I use procmon.exe from Systeminternals suite and it shows that the system is reading Elegant Ribbon assemblies many many times. I don’t know why? I installed Elegant Ribbon assemblies to GAC and it should be fast. The assemblies I’m using are:

Elegant.Ui.Common.dll

Elegant.Ui.Common.Theme.Office2010TP.dll

Elegant.Ui.Ribbon.dll

Elegant.Ui.Ribbon.Theme.Office2010TP.dll

I see that all these assemblies are ngened. And my app and its referenced assemblies are not. Is that supposed to mean anything?

Thank you very much. But I see that the assemblies is still obfuscated. That makes it impossible for me to integrate it into my application using ILMerge. Could you remove obfuscation so that I can merge them for even greater performance? I know that at least Elegant Ribbon v3.1 is not obfuscated. I know that this may lead to source code leak, but I don’t have the interest or energy to do so

Themes should stay separated in their own assemblies because there are many themes (and most developers use only one).



In my opinion, if you would like to merge assemblies into single .dll you should purchase Elegant Ribbon source code and modify it by yourself.



I also tested cold startup on my own machine and it is fast enough (under 5 seconds with precompiled assemblies).



Conclusion: I wouldn’t change anything (except removing System.Web reference if it is really not needed).

Themes should stay separated in their own assemblies because there are many themes (and most developers use only one).

     I also only use one. Point taken. But what I’m asking is to make exception. If you don’t, that’s fine.

In my opinion, if you would like to merge assemblies into single .dll you should purchase Elegant Ribbon source code and modify it by yourself.

    Is that so hard? I mean, you use ILMerge to merge two assemblies? Sure it would kill a lot of your coffee time. If you find ILMerge is too hard, there is a GUI tool for it. Check out http://ilmerger.codeplex.com/. I think it would not take much time to learn how to use it. But if you don’t want to do so, please remove obfuscation, I’ll do it myself. I don’t feed very comfortable that you took this chance to convince me to buy source code.

    I also tested cold startup on my own machine and it is fast enough (under 5 seconds with precompiled assemblies).

    You are suggesting that I made up the situation. Your sample apps also take more than 20s to do a cold startup. Are you sure before you run your sample app, no other .net app has been started - that’s the key here. If another .net app already started, the cold startup time is skewed. On my machine, my app will also start around 5s. So not really a cold startup. Are you also precompiled your sample app? I removed precompiled assemblies so that the result is not skewed. I think I made it clear that with precompiled assemblies, the situation got worse. Cause my app isn’t precompiled, so it’s a mix of IL assemblies and precompiled assemblies and so that the result is terrible( cold startup is more than 30s ).

First I would like to make one thing clear. I am 3rd party developer using Elegat Ribbon component. My previous post is just my personal opinion :)



I am not suggesting you are making up your situation. I am just telling fact that it works fine on my machine. And that cold startup test I took... It was not test of sample application, it was test of my own application (which are using 50,000+ users).



If you like, you can download my application and test how long it takes on your machine (download is available on http://www.sublight.si )







Regards,

macofaco

I downloaded your app called Sublight (BTW, it’s good in terms of UI design and other things). Ironically, it takes 30+s to do a cold startup. So much for the under-5s cold startup performance, huh? It takes about 28-29s for the splash window to even show up.  Check out my machine configuration and my test condition. On the other hand, although, my app is much larger ( about 9MB setup file size, a lot more assemblies cause I looked at your about dialog, also a lot more feautres [ it has 14 tabs ]) still on the cold startup, my app takes less than 1s for the splash window to show up, about 20s to show the main window. And my app don’t use ngen at all. If you don’t/can’t believe, I’ll send you a express version of my app ( it’s the free version, not released yet but soon ). And furthermore, it only requires .net framework 2.0.

Please keep in mind that I’m talking about cold startup time - which means after system reboot and before any other .net apps run. Literally mean that the .net framework has to be loaded (like JIT, etc). The warm startup performance is acceptable though. Actually sometimes it’s very good.

My main application is 840k, so if you are rebasing Elegant.Ui assemblies, you only need to offset about 1024*1024 bytes

BTW, my machine’s configuration is as below:

Intel Core 2 Duo T7500 2.20 GHZ

2G RAM

Win7 RC1 English 32Bit

120G Hard disk

System disk has about 30G free space. So it rules out performance issue of my machine. When I starts Windows Live Mail, which is also written in .NET, it only takes 10s at most to do a cold startup. So I believe it must be something wrong.

Could you let us know if the problem happens with our sample applications? You can also try removing the ngened assemblies from GAC and using Elegant Ribbon’s plain assemblies which you can find in the product’s folder. In any case, we are eager to help you resolve what you have encountered.

I tried ILMerge those 4 assemblies. It compiles fine, but it won’t start. It throws exception when Initialize Elegant.Ui.Ribbon types like RibbonGroup. It should be the side affect of obfuscation I guess.

Thank you for reporting the issue. The assemblies are indeed obfuscated so we will look into how to help you resolve this issue in the most efficient way.

It also happens with your sample applications. It takes a long time to startup after the system reboot - cold startup. I already took your advice and GACed only the assemblies I use. But it still take about 20s to do a cold startup. The warm startup performance is quite good though. Can you please merge Elegant.Ui.Common.dll/Elegant.Ui.Common.Theme.Office2010TP.dll/Elegant.Ui.Ribbon/Elegant.Ui.Ribbon.Theme.Office2010TP.dll using ILMerge or whatever and rebase the base memory address of the generated assembly so that it won’t be rebased at loading. When startup, my app mainly loads these 4 assemblies and when I used Procmon.exe, I saw that the assemblies referenced to System.Web which takes a long time  at cold startup. I know it’s probably because the license issue, but please remove the System.Web reference. For the recored, I already brought the license.

We will remove the System.Web reference. But frankly speaking we did not manage to reach the same slow start even on slower machines (Windows 7 32 and 64). We noticed that you are using Win7 RC1. Though RC1 is better than beta but still it is not a final version. Could try your app or our samples on a final version of Windows 7?

Be aware that I’m testing on my laptop, so disk IO will be the bottleneck. So that’s why I want to minimize the disk IO by removing unnecessary assemblies, merging necessary assemblies and rebasing assemblies so that they won’t conflict which will cause a lot more disk IO. So please merge those Elegant.Ui.Common/Elegant.Ui.Ribbon assemblies. I can rebase it myself though. And also please remove System.Web reference.

I tried it on Final Version of Windows 7, the same, around 20s. I believe that if you guys removed System.Web reference and merge Elegant.Ui.Common/Elegant.Ui.Ribbon/Elegant.Ui.Common.Theme.Office2010TP.dll/Elegant.Ui.Ribbon.Theme.Office2010TP.dll, the cold startup performance will be improved.

Please remove System.Web reference for all Elegant assemblies cause one of my testers found that Elegant Ribbon will send inforation to some unknow web address without user’s consent. This could be tricky if some Anti Virus/Anti Spyware treats it as spyware. And please, merge Elegant.Ui & Elegant.Ribbon so that I can rebase it for greater performance. I’m a performance freak. Please please!

We will remove the System.Web reference.

                                                                              ---------That’s good. But can I have the schedule? Cause it’s urgent and I’m very impatient.

But frankly speaking we did not manage to reach the same slow start even on slower machines (Windows 7 32 and 64). We noticed that you are using Win7 RC1. Though RC1 is better than beta but still it is not a final version. Could try your app or our samples on a final version of Windows 7?

                                                                               -----------Although it’s poosible that the delay is caused by Win7 RC, I doubt that. The cold startup has to be after the system reboot and no other .net apps are running. But I’ll try on Win7 final version.

Could you try the these assemblies? Now Elegant Ribbon should start faster at cold startup. The System.Web reference is now removed (but frankly speaking this did not help a lot). We also removed base addresses that had been specified for these assemblies.

Yes, it’s faster. Now it takes about 15s to do a cold startup. So, generally, it’s 5s faster.  

Thank you very much. But I see that the assemblies are still obfuscated. That makes it impossible for me to integrate it into my application using ILMerge. Could you remove obfuscation so that I can merge them for even greater performance? I know that at least Elegant Ribbon v3.1 is not obfuscated. I know that this may lead to source code leak, but I don’t have the interest or energy to do so. You can email me the de obfuscated assemblies if you may.

Imgen, we will prepare and send you the unonfucated assemblies tomorrow but that solution with ILMerge might not work. The code does not expect that it will be forced to work in that way. This is especially relevant for loading themes. By the way, we tested the cold startup of Windows Live Writer on a clean Windows XP (virtual) and it was a bit slower (~17s again ~13s for our Scribble sample). An empty Windows Forms app starts within 5 seconds but it is really empty.

Hello,

I’m seeing the following error when I close a child mdi window that contains a textbox/combobox in Windows 7:

System.ComponentModel.Win32Exception: Error creating window handle.

   at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.CreateHandle(CreateParams cp)

   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.CreateHandle()

   at System.Windows.Forms.TextBoxBase.CreateHandle()

   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.get_Handle()

   at Elegant.Ui.TextBoxBasedControl.TextEditorContainerWndProc(Message& m)

   at Elegant.Ui.TextBoxBasedControl.TextBoxContainer.WndProc(Message& m)

   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)

   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)

   at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)

Here are the relevant loaded assemblies:

mscorlib

    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0

    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4927 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)

    CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v2.0.50727/mscorlib.dll

----------------------------------------

Elegant.Ui.Common

    Assembly Version: 3.1.0.0

    Win32 Version: 3.1.0.0

    CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/xxx/AR1000/Elegant.Ui.Common.DLL

----------------------------------------

Elegant.Ui.Ribbon

    Assembly Version: 3.1.0.0

    Win32 Version: 3.1.0.0

    CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/xxx/AR1000/Elegant.Ui.Ribbon.DLL

----------------------------------------

Elegant.Ui.Common.Theme.Office2007Blue

    Assembly Version: 3.1.0.0

    Win32 Version: 3.1.0.0

    CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/xxx/AR1000/Elegant.Ui.Common.Theme.Office2007Blue.DLL

----------------------------------------

Elegant.Ui.Ribbon.Theme.Office2007Blue

    Assembly Version: 3.1.0.0

    Win32 Version: 3.1.0.0

    CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/xxx/AR1000/Elegant.Ui.Ribbon.Theme.Office2007Blue.DLL

It works fine in XP and Vista on the same machine (different partitions).  I know .NET 2.0 is installed on the Win 7 partition

Any ideas?

Thanks

That’s it - thanks!

Thank you for the test project. We confirm that it was the case in v.3.1. However in version 3.4 it is fixed. Version 3.4 can be downloaded from our website.

I have sent you a test project - thanks!

Sample:

public partial class Form1 : Form

{

        internal Dialog dlg = new Dialog();

        public Form1()

        {

            InitializeComponent();

        }

        private void button1_Click(object sender, EventArgs e)

        {

            dlg.ShowDialog();

        }

}

Dialog have a Ribbon ComboBox with 3 strings in items: 111, 222, 333.Strings entered non-dynammically in the "String Collectiom Editor".

After second call of button1_Click I have next string collection in ComboBox:

111

111

222

333

222

333

Standard ComboBox haven’t this problem.

Thank you. We confirm that it can be reproduced on our side. The fix will be available in the next release.

Could you send us a test project demonstrating the problem?

Test environment:

-Windows 7 (64 bit)

-Elegant Ribbon 3.4



How I tested?

-I created empty Windows Forms project (.NET Framework 2, Visual Studio 2008)

-created empty form with button (Form1)

-created form with 4 Elegant.Ui.ComboBox controls (Form2)

-when button on Form1 is clicked I displayed Form2 (with ShowDialog() method)

-when Form2 is closed Dispose() method is called on Form1 (button event handler)





Every time I clicked button on Form1 and then closed Form2, GDI objects were increased by 4 (to be more precize, 4 more Font objects). These GDI objects were never decreased. If I displayed and closed Form2 100 times there would be 400 GDI objects.



When I replaced Elegant.Ui.ComboBox with System.Windows.Forms.ComboBox everything was OK (when I closed Form2, GDI objects were released).

GDI objects were monitored by GDIView application.

If you need more information then please contact me.

No problem.

Keep up the good work!

We found the source of the problem already. It will be fixed in the next release. Thank you again.

Is there a way to integrate Screen tip into the standard win forms tool bar. Is there a way to I can replace the old school yellow tooltip that winforms provides?

Would appreciate any insight

Many thanks

How i can set my combobox controls for automatically select some item when i press some symbol in my keyboard?

Ok. now i see it is work. thank for this sample.I will need him. But i need other functionality.

I set my combobox.editedable = false and if i open my combobox and type ’S’ automatically selected line go in ’Spring’ or if i type ’F’ selected line automatically go in ’Fail’. i can do it?

i try but this code don’t work...(((

It should work. When you type in "S", "Spring" should appear just like in the standard combo box. What you do you mean by it does not work?

I downloaded elegant ribbon 3.4 and i do not understand how to get this to work. The first thing i did was try to run the dexplorer.exe to view the documentation but nohing works. says the shortcut has been moved blah blah blah. so now i do not even have the possibility of reading documentation to even come close to figuring out how to use this.

OS = windows 7 x64

visual studio 2010 beta2

.NET framework 4.0 beta 2

how do i open up a new instance of visual studio and be able to start creating apps with the controls? I am at a total lose here.

am trying to make a dialog application that makes use of Page Containers, nothing seems to be working. how do i make form1 to appear within panel1

Sorry for the miss communication, but am acutally using usercontrol.

in the normal vb.net, adding a usercontol to a panel is as easy as

Dim tempObject As New firstControl
        pnlMain.Controls.Clear() ’ pnlMain is the Panel.

        pnlMain.Controls.Add(tempObject)

how is it done on elegant ribbon since Elegant.UI.Panel.controls is not a member of the class?

Elegant.UI.Panel is inherited from the System.Windows.Forms.Control. So actually the Controls property is available in Elegant.UI.Panel. Could you elaborate?

Hello,

I noticed that in my application no screen tips are shown for controls in a RibbonGroup after upgrading to Elegant Ribbon 3.4. After searching for a solution, it seems that when enabling the screen tip for a RibbonTabPage the controls in a RibbonGroup doesn’t show a screen tip!

I tested this behavior with your sample application Elegant.Ui.Samples.RibbonUISample and got the same result. With the older Version 3.1 of Elegant Ribbon it works nice.

Can you fix this problem?

Thanks.

This is now fixed. The fix will be available in v.3.5, which is coming soon. Thank you again.

Hello,

I need to execute some code when the user enters and leaves a particular tab page of the ribbon. I’m handling the "Enter" and "Leave" events for the tab page in question, but the code in the event handler is never run. Is this a bug or a misunderstanding on my part? Thank you.

Actually, the Enter and Leave events are not raised by a ribbon tab page because it never actually contains focus(even when the child text box has focus). Can you elaborate on what you mean by the user enters and leaves a particular tab page of the ribbon?

I see.

What I need to do is this: when the user switches to a different tab page, I need to know what the new tab page is the user is changing to and what tab page the user is changing from. If the "Enter" and "Leave" events aren’t of any use here, then I guess I’ll have to keep a couple of tab page handlers pointing to the current/new tab pages and update them using the ribbon’s TabPageChanged event, or something similar.

-L

We are working on a new version of Elegant Ribbon, 3.5. It introduces a new event Ribbon.CurrentTabPageChanging which is definitely what you need right now. It will be released in the first half of January. So please stay tuned.

i like to get a datetimecell for the boundgridcontrol with Weeknumbers included.

Hi.

I maximize and restor MDI ChildForm, TitleBar’s afterimage remains.

Maximize.

Restor.

Thanks.

Hi.



I am colleague of uruga.I explain procedure instead of him.



[environment]

Visual Studio 2005/C#

.Net Framework 2.0

Elegant Ribbon Version3.4



[procedure]

Add Form1(Rename ParentForm) and Form2(Rename ChildForm).

Add ribbon1 on the ParentForm.

Add formFrameSkinner on the ChildForm.



a part of source code of ParentForm



public partial class ParentForm : Form

{

    public ParentForm : Form

    {

        InitializeComponent():

        this.IsMdiContainer = true;

        ChildForm childForm = new ChildForm();

        childForm.MdiParent = this;

        childForm.Show();

    }

}



And maximize and restore chilfForm.

Thank you for the bug report. We have already fixed this issue. The fix will be available in the next 3.5 version which will be released in the first half of January.

Hello,

I have the following questions regarding the ribbon UI control.

(1) I noticed that you don’t have support for the splitbutton/toggle button. I saw someone had posted about this in June. Does the most recent update (Dec21) add this?

(2) Is there any way to add a zoom slider in the status bar, similar to the MS Office applications?

(3) Is there any way to add a slider to the ribbon control (on a tab)? I need a slider style input from 1-100.

(4) How can I add an image to the status bar? Similar to MS Paint, the position and size icons.

Thanks!

Hi, guys. I remember that last week one guy told me that the new release was due to this week. But hey, it’s the weekend and still no sign of the new release. I’ve been expecting the new version for ages and you can imagine how disspointed I am. Any news on the release date of v3.4?

Hi.



I maximize and close MDI ChildForm2,and restore MDI ChildForm1,remain RibbonMdiButtonStrip.



Visual Studio 2005,C#

Elegant Ribbon v3.3.0.0

Add Form1(Rename ParentForm) and Form2(Rename ChildForm).

Add ribbon1 on the ParentForm.

a part of source code of ParentForm



    public partial class ParentForm : Form

    {

        ChildForm childForm1 = new ChildForm();

        ChildForm childForm2 = new ChildForm();

        public ParentForm()

        {

            InitializeComponent();

            this.IsMdiContainer = true;

            childForm1.MdiParent = this;

            childForm2.MdiParent = this;

            childForm1.Text = "ChildForm1";

            childForm2.Text = "ChildForm2;

            childForm1.Show();

            childForm2.Show();

        }

    }



Run and maximize ChildForm2 and close ChildForm2 and

restore ChildForm1.



Result:

Remain RibbonMdiButtonStrip of not maximized ChildForm1.

Thanks.

I am placing a panel with docking set to ’fill’ in a form with a statusbar docked at the bottom.  After doing that the panel is docking to the bottom of the form so that part of it is hidden behind the status bar.  I tried undocking both controls and docking them in different orders programatically, but that doesn’t help.  Is there some way to dock the status bar so that other controls will not dock behind it?

I had the child status correct, but you are correct that the bring to front solved the problem.   Thank you.